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		<title>By: Jimmy Ng</title>
		<link>http://7thprovince.com/way-of-karate-do/comment-page-1/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great questions.  Something the Mark came up with was really ingenious.  If you think you&#039;re in danger, say someone approaches for an unknown reason, then you could put your hands up palms out and say, &quot;Can I help you?&quot; or &quot;Stop!&quot;.  Palms out is important just in case you have to strike or use something called spearing invented by Sammy Franco.  At first it&#039;s non threatening.  But it puts your hands in a position ready to attack.

The breaching of personal boundaries has to be addressed individually.  Some people like yourself have long range weapons.  Someone like me has short range weapons.  Do you carry pepper sprays?  Should you?  Once a personal boundary has been established, then a teacher must place some kind of external pressure, like a simulated attack.  Having taught this, I&#039;d have several different types of attacks that the student must react to.  And much like playing an RPG on Playstation or an XBox 360, it can raise the student&#039;s heart rate and anxiety level.  I&#039;ll even have non-threatening stimuluses so the student must choose whether I&#039;m a real threat or not.  I&#039;ll internalize an emotion to attack to help the student&#039;s awareness to it.  

Can this truly substitute for the real thing?  No.  But it&#039;ll come close.  This with medium to heavy contact sparring is close.

If someone comes in the inside, where it seems to severely limit your options, then a student must train that.  As you know, no matter how good yur defence is, once a person attacks, an opening is created.  That is true in close quarters.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;395&#039;,&#039;Jimmy Ng&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;395&#039;,&#039;Jimmy Ng&#039;,&#039;Great questions.  Something the Mark came up with was really ingenious.  If you think you\&#039;re in danger, say someone approaches for an unknown reason, then you could put your hands up palms out and say, \&quot;Can I help you?\&quot; or \&quot;Stop!\&quot;.  Palms out is important just in case you have to strike or use something called spearing invented by Sammy Franco.  At first it\&#039;s non threatening.  But it puts your hands in a position ready to attack.\r\n\r\nThe breaching of personal boundaries has to be addressed individually.  Some people like yourself have long range weapons.  Someone like me has short range weapons.  Do you carry pepper sprays?  Should you?  Once a personal boundary has been established, then a teacher must place some kind of external pressure, like a simulated attack.  Having taught this, I\&#039;d have several different types of attacks that the student must react to.  And much like playing an RPG on Playstation or an XBox 360, it can raise the student\&#039;s heart rate and anxiety level.  I\&#039;ll even have non-threatening stimuluses so the student must choose whether I\&#039;m a real threat or not.  I\&#039;ll internalize an emotion to attack to help the student\&#039;s awareness to it.  \r\n\r\nCan this truly substitute for the real thing?  No.  But it\&#039;ll come close.  This with medium to heavy contact sparring is close.\r\n\r\nIf someone comes in the inside, where it seems to severely limit your options, then a student must train that.  As you know, no matter how good yur defence is, once a person attacks, an opening is created.  That is true in close quarters.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great questions.  Something the Mark came up with was really ingenious.  If you think you&#8217;re in danger, say someone approaches for an unknown reason, then you could put your hands up palms out and say, &#8220;Can I help you?&#8221; or &#8220;Stop!&#8221;.  Palms out is important just in case you have to strike or use something called spearing invented by Sammy Franco.  At first it&#8217;s non threatening.  But it puts your hands in a position ready to attack.</p>
<p>The breaching of personal boundaries has to be addressed individually.  Some people like yourself have long range weapons.  Someone like me has short range weapons.  Do you carry pepper sprays?  Should you?  Once a personal boundary has been established, then a teacher must place some kind of external pressure, like a simulated attack.  Having taught this, I&#8217;d have several different types of attacks that the student must react to.  And much like playing an RPG on Playstation or an XBox 360, it can raise the student&#8217;s heart rate and anxiety level.  I&#8217;ll even have non-threatening stimuluses so the student must choose whether I&#8217;m a real threat or not.  I&#8217;ll internalize an emotion to attack to help the student&#8217;s awareness to it.  </p>
<p>Can this truly substitute for the real thing?  No.  But it&#8217;ll come close.  This with medium to heavy contact sparring is close.</p>
<p>If someone comes in the inside, where it seems to severely limit your options, then a student must train that.  As you know, no matter how good yur defence is, once a person attacks, an opening is created.  That is true in close quarters.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('395','Jimmy Ng'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('395','Jimmy Ng','Great questions.  Something the Mark came up with was really ingenious.  If you think you\'re in danger, say someone approaches for an unknown reason, then you could put your hands up palms out and say, \&quot;Can I help you?\&quot; or \&quot;Stop!\&quot;.  Palms out is important just in case you have to strike or use something called spearing invented by Sammy Franco.  At first it\'s non threatening.  But it puts your hands in a position ready to attack.\r\n\r\nThe breaching of personal boundaries has to be addressed individually.  Some people like yourself have long range weapons.  Someone like me has short range weapons.  Do you carry pepper sprays?  Should you?  Once a personal boundary has been established, then a teacher must place some kind of external pressure, like a simulated attack.  Having taught this, I\'d have several different types of attacks that the student must react to.  And much like playing an RPG on Playstation or an XBox 360, it can raise the student\'s heart rate and anxiety level.  I\'ll even have non-threatening stimuluses so the student must choose whether I\'m a real threat or not.  I\'ll internalize an emotion to attack to help the student\'s awareness to it.  \r\n\r\nCan this truly substitute for the real thing?  No.  But it\'ll come close.  This with medium to heavy contact sparring is close.\r\n\r\nIf someone comes in the inside, where it seems to severely limit your options, then a student must train that.  As you know, no matter how good yur defence is, once a person attacks, an opening is created.  That is true in close quarters.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: chris "kenpo" long</title>
		<link>http://7thprovince.com/way-of-karate-do/comment-page-1/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>chris "kenpo" long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy, you&#039;re full of.....insight.

Something I&#039;ve been pondering lately is the fact that a real street attack is likely to happen with very little warning, certainly before you get a chance to hit your Fighting Stance (tm).  So in addition to practicing with a minimum of preset patterns (a whole other subject), it would be sensible to practice from various positions of &quot;readiness&quot;, or lack thereof.

For example, if you feel threatened, at what point to you put up your &quot;guards&quot;?  Is that an invitation to attack?  Or just prudent?  And at what point has the potential assailant breached the Go Zone (tm), inside of which you severely limit your ability to adequately react to an attack, and at which point the only sensible reaction is to act, that is, preemptively attack?

These, to me, are the crucial questions, and they&#039;re virtually never addressed at a Traditional Martial Arts School (pat pend).

What thinkest thou?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;393&#039;,&#039;chris \&quot;kenpo\&quot; long&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;393&#039;,&#039;chris \&quot;kenpo\&quot; long&#039;,&#039;Jimmy, you\&#039;re full of.....insight.\r\n\r\nSomething I\&#039;ve been pondering lately is the fact that a real street attack is likely to happen with very little warning, certainly before you get a chance to hit your Fighting Stance (tm).  So in addition to practicing with a minimum of preset patterns (a whole other subject), it would be sensible to practice from various positions of \&quot;readiness\&quot;, or lack thereof.\r\n\r\nFor example, if you feel threatened, at what point to you put up your \&quot;guards\&quot;?  Is that an invitation to attack?  Or just prudent?  And at what point has the potential assailant breached the Go Zone (tm), inside of which you severely limit your ability to adequately react to an attack, and at which point the only sensible reaction is to act, that is, preemptively attack?\r\n\r\nThese, to me, are the crucial questions, and they\&#039;re virtually never addressed at a Traditional Martial Arts School (pat pend).\r\n\r\nWhat thinkest thou?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy, you&#8217;re full of&#8230;..insight.</p>
<p>Something I&#8217;ve been pondering lately is the fact that a real street attack is likely to happen with very little warning, certainly before you get a chance to hit your Fighting Stance &#8482;.  So in addition to practicing with a minimum of preset patterns (a whole other subject), it would be sensible to practice from various positions of &#8220;readiness&#8221;, or lack thereof.</p>
<p>For example, if you feel threatened, at what point to you put up your &#8220;guards&#8221;?  Is that an invitation to attack?  Or just prudent?  And at what point has the potential assailant breached the Go Zone &#8482;, inside of which you severely limit your ability to adequately react to an attack, and at which point the only sensible reaction is to act, that is, preemptively attack?</p>
<p>These, to me, are the crucial questions, and they&#8217;re virtually never addressed at a Traditional Martial Arts School (pat pend).</p>
<p>What thinkest thou?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('393','chris \&quot;kenpo\&quot; long'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('393','chris \&quot;kenpo\&quot; long','Jimmy, you\'re full of.....insight.\r\n\r\nSomething I\'ve been pondering lately is the fact that a real street attack is likely to happen with very little warning, certainly before you get a chance to hit your Fighting Stance (tm).  So in addition to practicing with a minimum of preset patterns (a whole other subject), it would be sensible to practice from various positions of \&quot;readiness\&quot;, or lack thereof.\r\n\r\nFor example, if you feel threatened, at what point to you put up your \&quot;guards\&quot;?  Is that an invitation to attack?  Or just prudent?  And at what point has the potential assailant breached the Go Zone (tm), inside of which you severely limit your ability to adequately react to an attack, and at which point the only sensible reaction is to act, that is, preemptively attack?\r\n\r\nThese, to me, are the crucial questions, and they\'re virtually never addressed at a Traditional Martial Arts School (pat pend).\r\n\r\nWhat thinkest thou?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Ng</title>
		<link>http://7thprovince.com/way-of-karate-do/comment-page-1/#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, this is my site.  So no arguing.  Just kidding.  Kenpo has individual pieces that can be used in a real life and death situations:  claw to the eyes, kick to the groin, strikes to the throat, etc.

But to practice it in never-ending patterns, and you know what I mean when I say this, is meaningless.  It&#039;s meaningless because the patterns itself don&#039;t teach you what&#039;s really missing from kenpo.  Reactionary exercises are missing.  The patterns don&#039;t teach people how to react to a punch.

Worse.  It doesn&#039;t teach you how to react to the intense stress environment of an attack.

Yes, Kenpo does have full contact sparring.  But in our school it&#039;s severely limited to the instructors.  And it&#039;s the general population who needs it as well.

Sports fighting is the closest thing to a real life situation because of the stress factor.  Not only do you  have to be ready to react, but to do so effectively you must be cool.

Yes, I agree, that if we were to train at a truly real level, the number of students would die down pretty quick.  But not many schools train anywhere near this level.  The school where I came from definitely did not.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;384&#039;,&#039;Jimmy Ng&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;384&#039;,&#039;Jimmy Ng&#039;,&#039;Chris, this is my site.  So no arguing.  Just kidding.  Kenpo has individual pieces that can be used in a real life and death situations:  claw to the eyes, kick to the groin, strikes to the throat, etc.\r\n\r\nBut to practice it in never-ending patterns, and you know what I mean when I say this, is meaningless.  It\&#039;s meaningless because the patterns itself don\&#039;t teach you what\&#039;s really missing from kenpo.  Reactionary exercises are missing.  The patterns don\&#039;t teach people how to react to a punch.\r\n\r\nWorse.  It doesn\&#039;t teach you how to react to the intense stress environment of an attack.\r\n\r\nYes, Kenpo does have full contact sparring.  But in our school it\&#039;s severely limited to the instructors.  And it\&#039;s the general population who needs it as well.\r\n\r\nSports fighting is the closest thing to a real life situation because of the stress factor.  Not only do you  have to be ready to react, but to do so effectively you must be cool.\r\n\r\nYes, I agree, that if we were to train at a truly real level, the number of students would die down pretty quick.  But not many schools train anywhere near this level.  The school where I came from definitely did not.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, this is my site.  So no arguing.  Just kidding.  Kenpo has individual pieces that can be used in a real life and death situations:  claw to the eyes, kick to the groin, strikes to the throat, etc.</p>
<p>But to practice it in never-ending patterns, and you know what I mean when I say this, is meaningless.  It&#8217;s meaningless because the patterns itself don&#8217;t teach you what&#8217;s really missing from kenpo.  Reactionary exercises are missing.  The patterns don&#8217;t teach people how to react to a punch.</p>
<p>Worse.  It doesn&#8217;t teach you how to react to the intense stress environment of an attack.</p>
<p>Yes, Kenpo does have full contact sparring.  But in our school it&#8217;s severely limited to the instructors.  And it&#8217;s the general population who needs it as well.</p>
<p>Sports fighting is the closest thing to a real life situation because of the stress factor.  Not only do you  have to be ready to react, but to do so effectively you must be cool.</p>
<p>Yes, I agree, that if we were to train at a truly real level, the number of students would die down pretty quick.  But not many schools train anywhere near this level.  The school where I came from definitely did not.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('384','Jimmy Ng'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('384','Jimmy Ng','Chris, this is my site.  So no arguing.  Just kidding.  Kenpo has individual pieces that can be used in a real life and death situations:  claw to the eyes, kick to the groin, strikes to the throat, etc.\r\n\r\nBut to practice it in never-ending patterns, and you know what I mean when I say this, is meaningless.  It\'s meaningless because the patterns itself don\'t teach you what\'s really missing from kenpo.  Reactionary exercises are missing.  The patterns don\'t teach people how to react to a punch.\r\n\r\nWorse.  It doesn\'t teach you how to react to the intense stress environment of an attack.\r\n\r\nYes, Kenpo does have full contact sparring.  But in our school it\'s severely limited to the instructors.  And it\'s the general population who needs it as well.\r\n\r\nSports fighting is the closest thing to a real life situation because of the stress factor.  Not only do you  have to be ready to react, but to do so effectively you must be cool.\r\n\r\nYes, I agree, that if we were to train at a truly real level, the number of students would die down pretty quick.  But not many schools train anywhere near this level.  The school where I came from definitely did not.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: chris long</title>
		<link>http://7thprovince.com/way-of-karate-do/comment-page-1/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>chris long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s always a limitation of some kind.  A TKD fighter (assuming he&#039;s experienced and skillful) will be effective within that arena.  Certain aspects will translate well to a street altercation, but the habits formed as a result of following the &quot;rules&quot; of sparring (which is a sport, not combat), will be detrimental, and could, in fact, put the TKD at more risk than if he never studied.
     Kenpo bills itself as &quot;realistic self-defense&quot;, and I would argue that, compared to TKD, that&#039;s true.  Remember, kenpo includes full-contact sparring, using a much broader arsenal than TKD.  Lei tai fighting goes even further, including leg kicks and throws.  So if you limit the discussion to the sport fighting aspect of any given martial art, kenpo compares quite favorably.  If that&#039;s the scale, though, I&#039;d put my money on MMA.
     The problem is, all of them are still within the arena of sport, which is NOT true self-defense.  Any time you have rules of engagement, it&#039;s not true self-defense, where no rules apply, except survival (a gross oversimplification, true, but valid in a general sense).
     Even training for &quot;street fighting&quot; has its limitations, because you&#039;re talking about severely damaging another human being.  Your training wouldn&#039;t last long without some form of restraint.  BUT...restraint on the street could get you killed.
      See the problem?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;382&#039;,&#039;chris long&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;382&#039;,&#039;chris long&#039;,&#039;There\&#039;s always a limitation of some kind.  A TKD fighter (assuming he\&#039;s experienced and skillful) will be effective within that arena.  Certain aspects will translate well to a street altercation, but the habits formed as a result of following the \&quot;rules\&quot; of sparring (which is a sport, not combat), will be detrimental, and could, in fact, put the TKD at more risk than if he never studied.\r\n     Kenpo bills itself as \&quot;realistic self-defense\&quot;, and I would argue that, compared to TKD, that\&#039;s true.  Remember, kenpo includes full-contact sparring, using a much broader arsenal than TKD.  Lei tai fighting goes even further, including leg kicks and throws.  So if you limit the discussion to the sport fighting aspect of any given martial art, kenpo compares quite favorably.  If that\&#039;s the scale, though, I\&#039;d put my money on MMA.\r\n     The problem is, all of them are still within the arena of sport, which is NOT true self-defense.  Any time you have rules of engagement, it\&#039;s not true self-defense, where no rules apply, except survival (a gross oversimplification, true, but valid in a general sense).\r\n     Even training for \&quot;street fighting\&quot; has its limitations, because you\&#039;re talking about severely damaging another human being.  Your training wouldn\&#039;t last long without some form of restraint.  BUT...restraint on the street could get you killed.\r\n      See the problem?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s always a limitation of some kind.  A TKD fighter (assuming he&#8217;s experienced and skillful) will be effective within that arena.  Certain aspects will translate well to a street altercation, but the habits formed as a result of following the &#8220;rules&#8221; of sparring (which is a sport, not combat), will be detrimental, and could, in fact, put the TKD at more risk than if he never studied.<br />
     Kenpo bills itself as &#8220;realistic self-defense&#8221;, and I would argue that, compared to TKD, that&#8217;s true.  Remember, kenpo includes full-contact sparring, using a much broader arsenal than TKD.  Lei tai fighting goes even further, including leg kicks and throws.  So if you limit the discussion to the sport fighting aspect of any given martial art, kenpo compares quite favorably.  If that&#8217;s the scale, though, I&#8217;d put my money on MMA.<br />
     The problem is, all of them are still within the arena of sport, which is NOT true self-defense.  Any time you have rules of engagement, it&#8217;s not true self-defense, where no rules apply, except survival (a gross oversimplification, true, but valid in a general sense).<br />
     Even training for &#8220;street fighting&#8221; has its limitations, because you&#8217;re talking about severely damaging another human being.  Your training wouldn&#8217;t last long without some form of restraint.  BUT&#8230;restraint on the street could get you killed.<br />
      See the problem?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('382','chris long'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('382','chris long','There\'s always a limitation of some kind.  A TKD fighter (assuming he\'s experienced and skillful) will be effective within that arena.  Certain aspects will translate well to a street altercation, but the habits formed as a result of following the \&quot;rules\&quot; of sparring (which is a sport, not combat), will be detrimental, and could, in fact, put the TKD at more risk than if he never studied.\r\n     Kenpo bills itself as \&quot;realistic self-defense\&quot;, and I would argue that, compared to TKD, that\'s true.  Remember, kenpo includes full-contact sparring, using a much broader arsenal than TKD.  Lei tai fighting goes even further, including leg kicks and throws.  So if you limit the discussion to the sport fighting aspect of any given martial art, kenpo compares quite favorably.  If that\'s the scale, though, I\'d put my money on MMA.\r\n     The problem is, all of them are still within the arena of sport, which is NOT true self-defense.  Any time you have rules of engagement, it\'s not true self-defense, where no rules apply, except survival (a gross oversimplification, true, but valid in a general sense).\r\n     Even training for \&quot;street fighting\&quot; has its limitations, because you\'re talking about severely damaging another human being.  Your training wouldn\'t last long without some form of restraint.  BUT...restraint on the street could get you killed.\r\n      See the problem?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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